{"id":16664,"date":"2011-04-22T00:01:32","date_gmt":"2011-04-22T07:01:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/oooorgle.com\/BeyondTheCorral\/?p=16664"},"modified":"2019-02-13T07:30:44","modified_gmt":"2019-02-13T14:30:44","slug":"on-violence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oooorgle.com\/BeyondTheCorral\/on-violence\/","title":{"rendered":"On Violence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/freekeene.com\/2011\/04\/21\/on-violence\/\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/oooorgle.com\/images\/PoliceBrutality.png\" hspace=\"5\" align=\"left\">FreeKeene.com<\/a> | I really have no impressive educational qualifications to be a writer  for a blog that is comprised of individuals discussing the philosophy  of voluntaryism.&nbsp; I\u2019ve not finished my college degree (yet) and I  haven\u2019t even spent much time reading the works of people who  philosophize about the precise things I write about.<\/p>\n<p>What I have that I <em>do<\/em> believe makes my perspective unique is that for eleven years of my life I had the ability to initiate  violence against peaceful people without repercussions.&nbsp; I got paid for  it.&nbsp; Paid well.&nbsp; I elected, though, to give up a stable career with a  generous retirement package because of the answer to the following  question.&nbsp; The following question you can ask any person (or ask  yourself) and instantly determine if they too (or you) are a  voluntaryist.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>DO YOU BELIEVE VIOLENCE SHOULD BE USED TO SOLVE NON-VIOLENT PROBLEMS?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>How can anyone calling themselves a moral person answer that question in any manner but \u201cno?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I know a great deal of people who read this blog are people who  either firmly dislike what is being discussed here, work in law  enforcement and are collecting intel, or live in Keene and are generally  curious as to what all the ruckus is about.&nbsp; If you yourself are a  peaceful person and you spend time getting to know the people involved  in the Free State Project, Free Keene, or just the liberty movement in  general you eventually will find yourself in the same situation which  landed me here.<\/p>\n<p>Violence is wrong, right?<\/p>\n<p>It is important that society have order to it.&nbsp; To believe that  voluntaryists (I am proud to identify myself as one) support chaos is to  believe in something that simply isn\u2019t true.&nbsp; Society has complex  problems and these problems need to be addressed.&nbsp; The absolute worst  (and uncreative) way to address complicated non-violent societal  problems is to continue to do what is done today.&nbsp; That, of course, is  using violence.<\/p>\n<p>Today I was reading a <a href=\"http:\/\/forum.nhliberty.org\/index.php?topic=3383.0\" target=\"_blank\">thread<\/a> on the NH Liberty Alliance web forum.&nbsp; The thread was on the issue of  lowering the drinking age to 18. I posted a reply to the topic saying  that I think that if a law is introduced in the NH General Court which  would lower the drinking age that someone should testify in favor of the  bill by reading off the names of all of the 18-20 year old people who  died while serving in the military since 2001.&nbsp; I\u2019d love to hear the  bureaucrats who show up to oppose the legislation answer questions about  how someone isn\u2019t adult enough to enjoy a cold beer but they are adult  enough to carry a machine-gun, die, kill people, and have their legs  blown off in Iraq and Afghanistan while following the orders of  politicians in Washington.<\/p>\n<p>This thread on the NHLA forum caused me to think about a particular  societal problem I was called on to address one night while on-duty.<\/p>\n<p>The societal problem: a 17 year old and a 19 year old consuming alcohol.<\/p>\n<p>The societal solution: <strong>violence<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>I was dispatched to a house party where there was a report of  underage drinking.&nbsp; Indeed the report was accurate as there was a house  full of people peacefully consuming alcohol.&nbsp; After arresting (stealing  the freedom of) a peaceful 19 year old that I found inside consuming  liquor and placing him in the rear of a police cruiser the search of the  house continued.&nbsp; Sometime during the search I learned that the 19 year  old decided that he did not want to have his freedom taken away so he  kicked out the back window of the police car and ran off on foot.&nbsp; With  the assistance of a police dog I was able to track down the young adult  who was running through the woods with his 17 year old brother.&nbsp; As I  grabbed onto the 19 year old to re-arrest him, the 17 year old defended  his brother by putting me in a choke hold.<\/p>\n<p>I fell to the ground and twisted the 17 year old on top of me.&nbsp; I  punched him in the face, poked him in his eyes, and pushed him off of  me.&nbsp; I got up and extended my portable baton and whacked the 17 year old  in the back of the legs.&nbsp; He went down.&nbsp; Obviously.<\/p>\n<p>Both were eventually restrained and hauled away.&nbsp; The societal  problem of individuals under the age of 21 consuming liquor was  addressed in the way that society does its addressing.<\/p>\n<p>Please, with a straight face\u2026&nbsp; tell me that I didn\u2019t use violence to  solve a non-violent problem.&nbsp; You may say to yourself that the violence I  used was in response to the violence the 17 year old used.&nbsp; Fair point,  but the 17 year old was only using violence towards me to defend his  brother <em>after <\/em>I initiated violence against his brother in the  first place.&nbsp; How can a person claim that they (me, in that situation)  have a right to defend themselves against the defensive violence a  person uses to protect themselves or others from the violence that  person (me) initiated in the first place?&nbsp; That\u2019s like a kidnapper  claiming to be justified in shooting someone who brandishes a knife  after the kidnapper tries to shove them in the back of a sketchy black  van.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gencourt.state.nh.us\/RSA\/html\/LXII\/627\/627-4.htm\" target=\"_blank\">law<\/a> for normal people makes perfect sense.<\/p>\n<p><strong>627:4 Physical Force in Defense of a Person <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I. A person is justified in using non-deadly force upon  another person  in order to defend himself or a third person from what  he reasonably  believes to be the imminent use of unlawful, non-deadly  force by such  other person, and he may use a degree of such force which  he reasonably  believes to be necessary for such purpose.  However, such force is not  justifiable if: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>(b) He was the initial aggressor,  unless after such aggression he  withdraws from the encounter and  effectively communicates to such other  person his intent to do so, but  the latter notwithstanding continues the  use or threat of unlawful,  non-deadly force;  or<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Translation: you can\u2019t use violence and then claim the moral high  ground in using violence to protect yourself against retaliatory  violence.<\/p>\n<p>Shouldn\u2019t people have the right to defend themselves from all violent people?<em> <\/em><\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re a legislator in New Hampshire reading this, you\u2019re the one  with the ability to put a leash on the unnecessary violence that is used  to solve these problems.<\/p>\n<p>As I freely admit: I\u2019m no great voluntaryism philosopher.&nbsp; I also  don\u2019t want people to abuse alcohol, at any age.&nbsp; I don\u2019t have answers to  the questions about how our society can address the complicated  problems that we as human beings face.<\/p>\n<p>Thankfully, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=sLCEXtpTNYU\" target=\"_blank\">others do<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>By Bradley Jardis<\/p>\n<p><br clear=\"left\"><\/p>\n<p>Also See:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/oooorgle.com\/BeyondTheCorral\/?p=7950\">A Police Officer Who Stood on Principle Against Prohibition<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>FreeKeene.com | I really have no impressive educational qualifications to be a writer for a blog that is comprised of individuals discussing the philosophy of voluntaryism.&nbsp; I\u2019ve not finished my college degree (yet) and I haven\u2019t even spent much time reading the works of people who philosophize about the precise things I write about. 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